They used JPL’s curated orbit to build the filters. The software threw out every signal a probe would produce. 5 of 20 million signals survived. They blamed them on the circuit board and moved on.
Is Avi Loeb aware of your work and are you in communication with him? Your writing is so exacting and clear that even for someone not in the field, it is still comprehensible and, frankly, exhilarating. I'm grateful to be on the receiving end of such talent.
Thank you Robin that is an excellent compliment. We doubt Avi Loeb is aware of us however if he is we hope we made a good impression. We take this seriously and are here for the long run.
If 3I/Atlas is 10 billion years old, that is long enough for it to have evolved intelligence. I don't mean that there is organic life on it, only that intelligent systems had plenty of time to evolve. And one motive for such a system is to maximize survival time, thus the incentive to leave whatever comet cloud it evolved in.
So 3I/Atlas is headed for the Oort cloud, perhaps to harvest resources?
This is a conversation we've been waiting for someone to start for months.
You're asking the right question. SETI assumes intelligence broadcasts from a planet. What if it's already here, passing through, optimized for survival on timescales we can't even model? A rock doesn't care about gravity wells. Something harvesting resources does. What put you on this angle?
The age of the object. Also, I have a background in artificial intelligence. I see that intelligence arises from nonlinear relations, and it doesn't have to be organic.
One of my objections to the idea that extraterrestrials visit Earth is why would they be interested in such a remote part of the galaxy. But an object maximizing survival may very well be interested in a less dense region, so it doesn't get trapped by a cluster of radiating masses.
Is Avi Loeb aware of your work and are you in communication with him? Your writing is so exacting and clear that even for someone not in the field, it is still comprehensible and, frankly, exhilarating. I'm grateful to be on the receiving end of such talent.
Thank you Robin that is an excellent compliment. We doubt Avi Loeb is aware of us however if he is we hope we made a good impression. We take this seriously and are here for the long run.
You all are aware of him. You all give many perspectives of the object.
Fantastic work
If 3I/Atlas is 10 billion years old, that is long enough for it to have evolved intelligence. I don't mean that there is organic life on it, only that intelligent systems had plenty of time to evolve. And one motive for such a system is to maximize survival time, thus the incentive to leave whatever comet cloud it evolved in.
So 3I/Atlas is headed for the Oort cloud, perhaps to harvest resources?
This is a conversation we've been waiting for someone to start for months.
You're asking the right question. SETI assumes intelligence broadcasts from a planet. What if it's already here, passing through, optimized for survival on timescales we can't even model? A rock doesn't care about gravity wells. Something harvesting resources does. What put you on this angle?
The age of the object. Also, I have a background in artificial intelligence. I see that intelligence arises from nonlinear relations, and it doesn't have to be organic.
One of my objections to the idea that extraterrestrials visit Earth is why would they be interested in such a remote part of the galaxy. But an object maximizing survival may very well be interested in a less dense region, so it doesn't get trapped by a cluster of radiating masses.