Couldn't China's "race to space" be responsible for these actions taken by the U.S. as well? Why would we even bother to build/reinforce/expand our space defense against something so highly advanced? We would stand zero chance against anything a hyper-advanced extraterrestrial race could send our way. We would have no other option but to hope they are peaceful. "Independence Day" was a great movie but also the most unrealistic sci-fi movie ever made. Randy Quaid is far too old to fly a fighter jet into the space-anus of an alien mothership.
I see this alot and IMO if this is an alien mothership I think we can still successfully defend ourselves. Assuming unless they want to come here and just totally wipe us out with some alien nuke or something, I mean if they wanted to do that then they can just do it and probably would've done it by now and there would be most likely nothing we could do about that. But 1. What would be the motive for or reason or point to that? 2. I would assume if they are a hostile threat they want or need something here so wiping us out like that would inflict collateral damage. One possibility is they want us. But anyways I digress. So how can we beat an alien mothership with technology far inferior than theirs? Same way its been done throughout history, gorilla warfare. I may agree building all these new weapons and satellites may be pointless but you got it give it to the government they atleast have to try our best, but that's phase one. They are more advanced technological wise yes but we dont know if they have the capabilities to sustain an ongoing war (years/decades) with billions of humans logistically. Imagine sending one battleship 2000 years in the past with only the troops, vehicles and ammo you could carry on this battleship against the entire population and armies of the world around that time without using nukes. So if Phase 1 (our most advanced weapons fail) at some point we may eventually end up at a phase, whatever phase that is to fight in a gorilla warfare type warfare with these aliens. Yes they may be technological more advanced by far but if one mothership is all they got against a whole planet of humans, we may have a fighting chance. Aliens are not invincible. They can die. These are not omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient beings, if they were they would be gods.
Literally never going to work. Guerrilla warfare works when there is at least some closeness in technology. The Vietnamese also had guns supplied to them by Russia and China. They had, AK47, heavy machine guns, mines, grenades and mortars. Now look at The Zulu warriors. They often outnumbered their opponents 25-1. Yet they still lost to men with muskets. We would stand zero chance against a hyper advanced alien threat. They wouldn't even have to come to earth and engage us. They could send unmanned drone ships with advanced nerve agents that target only humans. It wouldn't even affect plants or water.
The war would be over in a day. What you speak of is folly.
The British only lost because they insisted on following the rules of war and wearing those ridiculous bright red uniforms.
Actually the battle of Isandlwana proves your statement wrong. Over 20,000 Zulu warriors overwhelmed a British camp, marking one of Britain's worst colonial defeats. Several thousand Zulu warriors, armed primarily with spears and shields, defeated a British colonial army equipped with modern Martini-Henry rifles and artillery. The British only won the war because they had renforcement which is one of the points I was making in my original comment, we dont know the aliens logistics capabilities. According to NASA and researchers The interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS is estimated to have been traveling through space for billions of years. Scientists believe it is a primordial object that likely formed over 7 billion years ago in another star system, making it much older than our own Sun and Earth. So how long will renforcement and resupply take to come if they need it? If its just one ship against billions of humans....yeah I still think we have a chance.
Here are other examples in history where several of armies with inferior technology defeating foes equipped with far superior weaponry which actually proves your "close technology comment" wrong and I have many more if you need it:
• Battle of Adwa (1896): Ethiopia defeated a modern Italian army aiming to colonize the region. The Ethiopian army was numerically larger but technologically outmatched, yet they used superior intelligence, speed, and logistical planning to destroy the Italian force.
• Battle of Little Bighorn (1876): A large coalition of Lakota, Arapaho, and Cheyenne warriors defeated the US 7th Cavalry. While the natives had a mix of weapons, they were fighting in a guerrilla capacity against a "modern" regiment, winning due to superior numbers and poor American leadership.
• Battle of Teutoburg Forest (9 AD): Germanic tribes, using simple weaponry and ambush tactics, annihilated three Roman legions. The Romans possessed superior armor, organization, and artillery but were defeated by local terrain knowledge, discipline, and surprise.
• Battle of the Golden Spurs (1302): Flemish infantry (mostly foot soldiers) overcame the superior heavy cavalry of France. By trapping the knights in marshy, waterlogged terrain, the Flemish nullified the technological advantage of armored horses and heavy lances.
For God's sake man they have mastered interstellar travel. We're not talking about spears versus muskets here. Look at our technogy as it stands. We already have robots and drones. Within 100 years robots will likely be fighting in wars. They are likely thousands of years ahead of us. Picture Zulu warriors vs. 100 special forces soldiers armed with state of the art weaponry and technology. You still are nowhere even close to the technological gap we are looking at. If an advanced country on earth wanted to wipe out a smaller one with no restraints, they would nuke, gas, and use biologics...everything at its disposal and that country would be dead in a day. One. Day.
Once again, the gap is so far beyond that as to be comical. There would be no "resistance" because we would all be dead before we even knew what was going on. Just look what COVID did. That's with current technology. Imagine the species-specific virus that a hyper-advanced race could conjure up.
Billions you say? Have you ever seen an exterminator kill roaches? I used to be an exterminator, one man killing hundreds of thousands in a single day.
Humans are not roaches. We are far more fragile. Now picture an extraterrestrial exterminator. That's the chance we've got. I admire your confidence though. Maybe the aliens will put "Well, at least he thought he had a chance" on your tombstone. Hopefully without the laughing alien emoji.
Your analogy still doesnt work. A more accurate analogy would be billions of Zulu warriors against 100s of soecial forces soldiers. Sure the Zulu warriors would have casualties but eventually the special force team would run out of resources and just be simply too overwhelmed.
I wouldn't exactly say they mastered interstellar travel. They've been in our solar system for months and still will take them months to finally exit it. Yes they are going fast but in the scale of the universe they are going super slow
We aren't talking about the scale of the universe. We are talking about them vs. us. They are moving at speeds beyond our capabilities by hundreds and quite possibly thousands of years.
When discussing scale multiple factors have to be taken into consideration. The "billions of Zulu vs. hundreds of Special forces soldiers" was an admitted poor analogy because that doesn't reflect the true technological gap.
Its far wider than that.
It's not accurate to say "billions of Zulu vs hundreds of modern soldiers". Its more like billions of roaches vs. hundreds of exterminators.
They are suspended many miles above our atmosphere and likely much farther than that (think far side of the moon) and no doubt have access to what we refer to as "drones" only what they have could out-maneuver out finest aircraft and would be piloted by artificial intelligence not human beings. Not to mention the metallurgical advantage with compositions of advanced alloys creating drones with tensile strength we could never imagine. Hell, they might not even use metals at their stage. They might use something else altogether.
But they wouldn't need advanced metals or cannons or laser weapons. They would just need to 3D print enough drones to carry a catastrophic nerve agent into our atmosphere and disperse it. Thats it. Game over. We all fall asleep and never wake up. If they were smart they wouldn't waste any more resources than they have to.
Think a giant can of raid being sprayed into a 10 gallon fish tank filled with roaches.
If the first leg of DARC was awarded in 2024 and we only found out detailed details of 3i Atlas in late 2025, doesn't that suggest 3i atlas alone is not the trigger for this response system? Unless 3i was known about in far more detail for far longer than previously released.
I get it, we really do not know what Atlas 3I is yet, let's piss billion$$ at it... Because.
The Moon is approximately 384,000 km (238,600 miles) away from Earth, on average. This article notes we are looking at a ~10% that distance.
I am intrigued by this discussion but relative to deep space and what we do not know, the moon is our nearest neighbor in our little solar cluster. Outside that, we know nothing really other than some probes and telescope reveals. To me, as a dumbass, deep space does not start until we have gotten out of our own solar system.
On I could go but I truly wish we could drop the absolute defensive weenie shaking and see what the unidentified 'others' may be willing to offer us. Were we just scanned by a much more powerful probe??
Couldn't China's "race to space" be responsible for these actions taken by the U.S. as well? Why would we even bother to build/reinforce/expand our space defense against something so highly advanced? We would stand zero chance against anything a hyper-advanced extraterrestrial race could send our way. We would have no other option but to hope they are peaceful. "Independence Day" was a great movie but also the most unrealistic sci-fi movie ever made. Randy Quaid is far too old to fly a fighter jet into the space-anus of an alien mothership.
I see this alot and IMO if this is an alien mothership I think we can still successfully defend ourselves. Assuming unless they want to come here and just totally wipe us out with some alien nuke or something, I mean if they wanted to do that then they can just do it and probably would've done it by now and there would be most likely nothing we could do about that. But 1. What would be the motive for or reason or point to that? 2. I would assume if they are a hostile threat they want or need something here so wiping us out like that would inflict collateral damage. One possibility is they want us. But anyways I digress. So how can we beat an alien mothership with technology far inferior than theirs? Same way its been done throughout history, gorilla warfare. I may agree building all these new weapons and satellites may be pointless but you got it give it to the government they atleast have to try our best, but that's phase one. They are more advanced technological wise yes but we dont know if they have the capabilities to sustain an ongoing war (years/decades) with billions of humans logistically. Imagine sending one battleship 2000 years in the past with only the troops, vehicles and ammo you could carry on this battleship against the entire population and armies of the world around that time without using nukes. So if Phase 1 (our most advanced weapons fail) at some point we may eventually end up at a phase, whatever phase that is to fight in a gorilla warfare type warfare with these aliens. Yes they may be technological more advanced by far but if one mothership is all they got against a whole planet of humans, we may have a fighting chance. Aliens are not invincible. They can die. These are not omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient beings, if they were they would be gods.
Literally never going to work. Guerrilla warfare works when there is at least some closeness in technology. The Vietnamese also had guns supplied to them by Russia and China. They had, AK47, heavy machine guns, mines, grenades and mortars. Now look at The Zulu warriors. They often outnumbered their opponents 25-1. Yet they still lost to men with muskets. We would stand zero chance against a hyper advanced alien threat. They wouldn't even have to come to earth and engage us. They could send unmanned drone ships with advanced nerve agents that target only humans. It wouldn't even affect plants or water.
The war would be over in a day. What you speak of is folly.
The British only lost because they insisted on following the rules of war and wearing those ridiculous bright red uniforms.
Actually the battle of Isandlwana proves your statement wrong. Over 20,000 Zulu warriors overwhelmed a British camp, marking one of Britain's worst colonial defeats. Several thousand Zulu warriors, armed primarily with spears and shields, defeated a British colonial army equipped with modern Martini-Henry rifles and artillery. The British only won the war because they had renforcement which is one of the points I was making in my original comment, we dont know the aliens logistics capabilities. According to NASA and researchers The interstellar comet 3I/ATLAS is estimated to have been traveling through space for billions of years. Scientists believe it is a primordial object that likely formed over 7 billion years ago in another star system, making it much older than our own Sun and Earth. So how long will renforcement and resupply take to come if they need it? If its just one ship against billions of humans....yeah I still think we have a chance.
Here are other examples in history where several of armies with inferior technology defeating foes equipped with far superior weaponry which actually proves your "close technology comment" wrong and I have many more if you need it:
• Battle of Adwa (1896): Ethiopia defeated a modern Italian army aiming to colonize the region. The Ethiopian army was numerically larger but technologically outmatched, yet they used superior intelligence, speed, and logistical planning to destroy the Italian force.
• Battle of Little Bighorn (1876): A large coalition of Lakota, Arapaho, and Cheyenne warriors defeated the US 7th Cavalry. While the natives had a mix of weapons, they were fighting in a guerrilla capacity against a "modern" regiment, winning due to superior numbers and poor American leadership.
• Battle of Teutoburg Forest (9 AD): Germanic tribes, using simple weaponry and ambush tactics, annihilated three Roman legions. The Romans possessed superior armor, organization, and artillery but were defeated by local terrain knowledge, discipline, and surprise.
• Battle of the Golden Spurs (1302): Flemish infantry (mostly foot soldiers) overcame the superior heavy cavalry of France. By trapping the knights in marshy, waterlogged terrain, the Flemish nullified the technological advantage of armored horses and heavy lances.
For God's sake man they have mastered interstellar travel. We're not talking about spears versus muskets here. Look at our technogy as it stands. We already have robots and drones. Within 100 years robots will likely be fighting in wars. They are likely thousands of years ahead of us. Picture Zulu warriors vs. 100 special forces soldiers armed with state of the art weaponry and technology. You still are nowhere even close to the technological gap we are looking at. If an advanced country on earth wanted to wipe out a smaller one with no restraints, they would nuke, gas, and use biologics...everything at its disposal and that country would be dead in a day. One. Day.
Once again, the gap is so far beyond that as to be comical. There would be no "resistance" because we would all be dead before we even knew what was going on. Just look what COVID did. That's with current technology. Imagine the species-specific virus that a hyper-advanced race could conjure up.
Billions you say? Have you ever seen an exterminator kill roaches? I used to be an exterminator, one man killing hundreds of thousands in a single day.
Humans are not roaches. We are far more fragile. Now picture an extraterrestrial exterminator. That's the chance we've got. I admire your confidence though. Maybe the aliens will put "Well, at least he thought he had a chance" on your tombstone. Hopefully without the laughing alien emoji.
Your analogy still doesnt work. A more accurate analogy would be billions of Zulu warriors against 100s of soecial forces soldiers. Sure the Zulu warriors would have casualties but eventually the special force team would run out of resources and just be simply too overwhelmed.
I wouldn't exactly say they mastered interstellar travel. They've been in our solar system for months and still will take them months to finally exit it. Yes they are going fast but in the scale of the universe they are going super slow
We aren't talking about the scale of the universe. We are talking about them vs. us. They are moving at speeds beyond our capabilities by hundreds and quite possibly thousands of years.
When discussing scale multiple factors have to be taken into consideration. The "billions of Zulu vs. hundreds of Special forces soldiers" was an admitted poor analogy because that doesn't reflect the true technological gap.
Its far wider than that.
It's not accurate to say "billions of Zulu vs hundreds of modern soldiers". Its more like billions of roaches vs. hundreds of exterminators.
They are suspended many miles above our atmosphere and likely much farther than that (think far side of the moon) and no doubt have access to what we refer to as "drones" only what they have could out-maneuver out finest aircraft and would be piloted by artificial intelligence not human beings. Not to mention the metallurgical advantage with compositions of advanced alloys creating drones with tensile strength we could never imagine. Hell, they might not even use metals at their stage. They might use something else altogether.
But they wouldn't need advanced metals or cannons or laser weapons. They would just need to 3D print enough drones to carry a catastrophic nerve agent into our atmosphere and disperse it. Thats it. Game over. We all fall asleep and never wake up. If they were smart they wouldn't waste any more resources than they have to.
Think a giant can of raid being sprayed into a 10 gallon fish tank filled with roaches.
wew lad
If the first leg of DARC was awarded in 2024 and we only found out detailed details of 3i Atlas in late 2025, doesn't that suggest 3i atlas alone is not the trigger for this response system? Unless 3i was known about in far more detail for far longer than previously released.
I get it, we really do not know what Atlas 3I is yet, let's piss billion$$ at it... Because.
The Moon is approximately 384,000 km (238,600 miles) away from Earth, on average. This article notes we are looking at a ~10% that distance.
I am intrigued by this discussion but relative to deep space and what we do not know, the moon is our nearest neighbor in our little solar cluster. Outside that, we know nothing really other than some probes and telescope reveals. To me, as a dumbass, deep space does not start until we have gotten out of our own solar system.
On I could go but I truly wish we could drop the absolute defensive weenie shaking and see what the unidentified 'others' may be willing to offer us. Were we just scanned by a much more powerful probe??
36,000 kilometers is Hardly Deep Space
It's much deeper space than the current theater.
About 10 minutes warning if 3IAtlas pulled a hard turn towards us. That's not alot of time to get to a safe place to die in peace.